Monday, June 16, 2008

The Breakdown Of Gas Prices


The price of gasoline will continue to increase this summer, and I dare you to find me one person in this country who is happy about it. People who live in the wilderness and don't interact with society? Gas thieves? Gas cap lock manufacturers? Ok, maybe them.

You might think that gas station owners and big oil companies are loving these record high prices. But you would be wrong. We've all heard that these high gas prices are conversely affected by the sale of gasoline, because it is lowering the demand for the fuel in the market. The less people who can afford the high prices, the less that is sold.

FiveCentNickel, an interesting money blog, took a look at the Department of Energy's most recent fuel update numbers and did some crunching.

Here is the latest breakdown of what goes into the price of gas:

73% - Crude oil
11% - Federal and state taxes
10% - Refining costs and profits
6% - Distribution and marketing

For some of you, this might be obvious, but it's still an interesting breakdown to examine. The big number that gets your attention is the price of crude oil. In spite of today's announcement that Saudi Arabia will be increasing oil production, prices continue to hover around the $135 - $140 mark.

But in further detail, take a look at that 6% distribution and marketing. That percentage includes the cost of what it takes to get the gas to market plus the gas station's profits.

So as you can see your local Shell and BP aren't really the well-endowed bandits you might think they are. With the cost of trucking and shipping the gasoline to stations rising because of high gas prices (being the fixed proportional numbers they are), the gas companies are biting a similar bullet.

My solution? Well if drilling in Alaska and off the coast of Florida are frowned upon by all those environmental conservatives (polar bears like Coca-Cola, but they don't like oil?), why not get some drills and roughnecks up to the Moon. How much you wanna bet there is more oil floating in the middle of the moon (next to all the dinosaur bones) than in Saudi Arabia?

FiveCentNickel: What Goes Into Gas Prices, June 13, 2008

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Ya know, as much as I love to read the

Ya know, as much as I love to read the pundit-pushed bullshit people regurgitate on these comment boards, loosely contextual statistics and the whole damn party.... what a fucking hoot... I gotta say some of you...I mean come on people... really. It's not so complex.
You wanna know, "where's the corruption? Where's the money going? OPEC or EXXON? Haliburton?" The answer is all of the above. It's nothing new. The rich get richer at the expense of the poor. Thus we, the poor, get poorer. And if you think there's a middle class you're an idiot and probably an asshole, as well.

Rich and Poor. Or to put it into conceptual terms, there are two groups of people in the US today: people who are hurting due to our crumbling economy and ridiculous foreign policy, and people who are not.

Ego check.... if you find yourself having to choose between defaulting on student loans or having your house foreclosed, you're poor.

The high price of gasoline is obviously doing a great job of crippling our entire way of life. And yes, your government has failed you in regards to this issue and in its entirety. But you can't expect... (or even allow) the government to step in and take control of this thing.

We live in a free market society, people. Profits are the name of the game and record profits are sort of the eternal goal. And the Middle East hates us. The entire region outside of Israel HATES US. Don't fool yourselfs. Why would they give a shit that our gas is going to $5/gal? They're paying $60-something cents. They don't give a shit.

The government can't change it. The oil companies won't change it. YOU have to change it. Stop giving them your money. End of story. That's the only way to stop it. Of course, that's never gonna happen and it wouldn't matter anyway because this empire is bound to fall. But that's not the point.

Consented ignorance and selective amnesia are going to be the end of our nation. Wake up, people. You put two oil men in the White House and now you're paying record prices for fuel while the oil companies turn record profits. That looks, walks, and sounds like a duck to me. Quack Quack.

Hummm seems to me that if you go to a

Hummm seems to me that if you go to a small town where they sell a lot less gas the price is a lot higher. Also just in general business the more you sell of a product the less you you have to charge. As for drilling local it seems to me that as soon as a supplier sees competition and that they are lossing their monoploy that they get off their horse and lower prices. But what do I know I have only been abusiness owner for 35 years

D,You're smoking crack. Drilling in

D,

You're smoking crack. Drilling in ANWAR would do nothing to lower the price of gasoline. It'd give us some more oil, sure, but not enough to effect the price at the pump in any significant way.

The best thing to do would be to develop alternatives to gasoline and oil to curtail the demand. Lowering demand would lower the price. Simple enough economically, it's just a matter of getting someone to take the political risk. Of course, another way to curtail demand is to have oil trade $250 a barrel...

-DT

Here's how to lower gas prices and kill

Here's how to lower gas prices and kill Islamic militants:

1. Iran won't comply? Fine. Make a tactical nuclear strike against them. They want nuclear weapons for the sole purpose of having a bargaining chip when we get the oil. Saudi Arabia will have to decide if it wants to help fight or get caught in the crossfire. The US government knows some sheiks fund schools that train militants and preach extreme violence.

These hike-ups in prices are a type of terrorism tactic. Middle Eastern countries that fund terrorism as well as have close ties to oil sheiks know that their armies have no fighting chance against the US or any of the European armed forces. They fix this by using economic terrorism. Set the price of crude to the point where it is too high and everyone gets desperate. Gas thieves are one thing here, but Britain is having problems supplying food.

This is a battle of civilizations. It's the non-Islamic world versus the Islamic militants. Anyone that thinks this is not true needs to brush up on Middle Eastern politics or go to college.

That's over 85 BILLION dollars they

That's over 85 BILLION dollars they took from Americans last year. Yup, They sure need $4.00 Gallons!

It can be so exhausting explaining simple economics to mouth-breathers.

First of all, the mere fact that somebody is making a lot of money doesn't mean they're doing something wrong.

Second, just because somebody is making a lot of money doesn't mean that their prices are set too high. In fact, if they're setting their prices as low as possible -- for example, a 1% profit margin -- and they're still selling a metric assload of goods, then it seems more likely that they're setting the price *too low*. If gas stations make 1 penny per gallon of gas sold, then they can still make billions of dollars in profits by selling hundreds of billions of gallons of gas. Care to wager on how many gallons of gas were sold in the world last year?

Third, those companies you listed do a lot more besides running gas stations. The vast majority of their profits come from other operations, like refining, chemicals, and other work.

On the other hand, the gas stations are typically franchise operations. They're run by an individual (or an individual's corporation) that is completely separate from Exxon. The franchisees then pay money to Exxon for the right to use their name and buy their goods.

Fourth, who do you think made more money off the sale of oil last year: Exxon or the government? Here's a hint: Exxon's profit margin was 10%. The government took 25% of all revenues (not just profits).

So the oil companies made 85 billion

So the oil companies made 85 billion dollars last year, bfd. Its a business. If you don't want to pay for the product, don't buy it. Getting the government involved is the political equivalent of running to your mommy crying.

The oil companies are not the ones who sell crude oil, the crude oil is bought from national companies in the Middle East and other countries. It seems government is not always the answer.

Stop complaining about gas prices, you still use a smaller percentage of your income on oil than families did in the 1950's. You're probably the same people who buy magazines, an industry who makes almost three times as much profit for its product than oil does. So if you're going to complain be consistent. Start complaining about water companies (who receive outrageous contracts from the government) AND oil companies or stop complaining.

Its funny how it should be illegal or anyone to make a profit except you.

The crude oil IS the big oil companies.

The crude oil IS the big oil companies. They sell it. The stations and the middlemen are the 6%. It never surprises me how even intelligent people fail to understand the whole "take it from the ground to the pump" process. Then again even our government doesn't understand how it works so why should the average person.

I agree with Rene. The higher the

I agree with Rene. The higher the price goes, the happier I am. We've been leaning on this awful foreign policy in the mideast for way too long because of our dependence on oil.

Also, I'm happy to see SUV sales die off. The US Auto Manufacturers have been behind the ball for years... they deserve what's coming to them. Like our "leaders," they've lacked foresight.

Now if oil can get high enough so that I don't have to listen to my neighbor chase 10 leaves down his driveway with his gasoline powered leaf blower, we'll be getting somewhere.

-DT

If we had been allowed to drill in ANWR

If we had been allowed to drill in ANWR and offshore our coast 10 years ago we would be enjoying $2 a gallon gasoline right now. And if we had invested in nuclear power (like most of Europe uses now) we would have lower electricity and heating oil bills, too.

Who has blocked this from happening? The Democrats and rabid environmentalists.

Also making sure to differentiate

Also making sure to differentiate between big oil companies and 'gas station owners' here. The latter getting screwed over pretty good now. So bad that Exxon is selling them all.

http://usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/cars-trucks/daily-news/080616-High-...

True, the oil companies are making

True, the oil companies are making record profits, but it's not all good news for them. Take for example Chevron, which made $18.7 billion last year, but still suffered losses in the 3rd and 4th quarter. Ample supplies of gasoline caused retail prices not to be able to keep up with crude oil costs.

Of course you can't paint the big oil companies as penniless misers, but it's just inaccurate to assume the rise in crude oil prices works directly to their advantage. Shouldn't we really be looking at the tax breaks, subsidies, and incentives these companies are getting?

Zero percent Margin? Where are the

Zero percent Margin? Where are the record profits coming from?

1. Collect Oil
2......
3. Profit

You're fucking stupid!!! Research how

You're fucking stupid!!! Research how much money any 3 oil companies made IN PROFIT last year and tell me again that the 6% doesn't amount to anything.... Too lazy to research? I'm not. Exxon, Chevron/Texaco & Royal Dutch/Shell made a combined $85, 559, 000, 000
last year. That's over 85 BILLION dollars they took from Americans last year. Yup, They sure need $4.00 Gallons! In my estimation you're either stupid, un-informed or getting paid to sell those lies!

You're fucking stupid!!! Research how

You're fucking stupid!!! Research how much money any 3 oil companies made IN PROFIT last year and tell me again that the 6% doesn't amount to anything.... Too lazy to research? I'm not. Exxon, Chevron/Texaco & Royal Dutch/Shell made a combined $85, 559, 000, 000
last year. That's over 85 BILLION dollars they took from Americans last year. Yup, They sure need $4.00 Gallons! In my estimation you're either stupid, un-informed or getting paid to sell those lies!

And where's the 30% futures speculation

And where's the 30% futures speculation factored in?

While I don't enjoy paying for it as

While I don't enjoy paying for it as much as the next guy, I say yeah for higher gas prices. Hopefully it will force our politicians to make the tough choices and encourage a real and viable energy policy they're just too chicken to make right now.